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The Tale of "SCAR"
Notes from the tale of a Shoshone Man's friendship with a Sasquatch nicknamed "Scar"
The Tales of Scar, from Hawk’s EmailsA series of emails from a man called Hawk, read on The Round Table Of Knowledge By HTH, relaying his grandfather’s 50-year friendship with a Sasquatch he called Scar.
The grandfather
Hawk’s grandfather was born in the late 1800s in Montana, near the Canadian border, to a Shoshone father and a Flathead (Salish Kootenai) mother.1 The family moved to a reservation in Wyoming, and he was taken to a government school. He ran away and walked to Canada, hiding from white people the whole way, worked as a water boy on a logging crew, then walked back to Wyoming as a teen in the late 1910s.23 He spent his life in the mountains and stood 5’4".4 Hawk says that in many ways his grandfather was a forest person himself.3
He also told of other beings he saw in Canada: little people, a giant over 20 ft, eagle-like birds 5 ft tall, large featherless flying animals, a dogman, and beings with glowing eyes. He didn’t like to talk about them, and Hawk is clear these were not the forest people.5
1. First meeting: the bear fight (late spring, early 1920s)
Crossing steep, loose shale, the grandfather heard roaring below, slid about 20 ft over a drop, and landed beside a large black sow locked in a fight with a young forest person.6 The sow had the forest person’s left arm in her jaws and was swiping with her right paw while he sidestepped to stay on his feet.
The grandfather kicked at the two cubs blocking his escape. One bit his ankle and bawled, and the sow turned on him. He fired his single-shot brush gun into her face at about 4 ft and blinded her.7 The forest person straddled her back, pinned her with his left hand, and beat her head with a rock in his right, while the grandfather sat holding a hind leg.8
Strange behaviors after the kill
- He stood straight, threw his head back, and stared at the sky.9
- In the blink of an eye, he was suddenly about 10 ft away, watching the grandfather.9
- He smiled and made what sounded like chuckling. The grandfather laughed with him.10
- He crouched and rubbed dirt into his bite and claw wounds. The grandfather showed him how to rub bear fat on them instead, and afterward he licked the grease off his hands.11
- The two sat in the shade looking at each other for a while.11
- He climbed the cubs’ tree, grabbed one cub by the scruff within seconds, and dropped it down to the grandfather. He killed the second himself.12
- He walked off with a cub over his shoulder, dragging the sow by a leg.13
The coming-of-age quest
Scar later explained that he had reached the age when a young male is sent out alone on a quest to bring back a bear cub, which is why no one came to help him. He was hidden, but the sow caught his scent. He ran in and grabbed a cub, and the sow chased him. Looking back over his shoulder, he ran headfirst into a tree, and the fight was on. Telling the story, Scar smiled and shrugged, and the grandfather laughed hard and wished he’d seen that part.14
2. Scar as a young male
The grandfather named him for a scar running down the left side of his forehead onto his left cheek.415 Both were young men at the time.16
- Build: About 6 ft, very muscular, wide shoulders. Long arms, big hands and fingers, thick legs.1718
- Hair: Blue heeler colored and not very long, except on the head, down the back, and at the groin. It hung from the backs of his arms.19
- Face: Small beard and mustache, otherwise hairless. Large, dark brown eyes with visible whites. No brow ridge described, but larger bumps where the nose begins. A large, humanlike nose with bigger nostrils.20
- Mouth: Wide and straight-lipped, able to open wide enough to fit a whole chicken. Big square teeth, and a tongue like a crow’s. Long eyelashes, thick eyebrows.18
- Feet: Long and fairly narrow then, growing much longer and wider with age. The heel extended farther behind the ankle than a human heel.19
- Mortal: He bled and had a belly button, so the grandfather considered him a person of this world.14
- Wrapped in a blanket, he could have passed for a man.16
- Skin color: Not described.
3. Second meeting: fishing (missing)
Hawk says this email came next, but Steve apparently never read it on air.2122
4. Learning to talk
They began by pointing: the grandfather would name an object in English, and Scar would name it in his own language.23
- Scar learned English far faster than the grandfather learned his language, and later learned Shoshone too.24
- He pointed at everything, wanting the name for it, and remembered a word after hearing it once or twice.25
- He never grasped words like “this,” “that,” or “type.” If something couldn’t be seen or done, his people had no word for it.25
- He ran his words together without breaks, spoke some words on the inhale when excited, and could talk endlessly without pausing.26
- He wanted to learn everything, and above all about airplanes. The grandfather didn’t think Scar ever understood that people were inside flying them. His people have a great fear of things that come from the sky.27
5. The match
Camping at sundown, Scar helped gather wood and squatted behind the grandfather to watch him light the fire. The instant the match flared, Scar yanked him backward several feet by his coat and swatted the match away. Then he looked the grandfather over and asked whether he would live, his way of asking if he was okay. Afterward the grandfather showed him, step by step, how a match works.28
6. Customs and communication
- Knocks: Some knocks are made by striking trees, which sounds loud and solid. Others are made with the tongue, which is louder and more hollow. One knock means “I’m here”; two mean “stay there, I’ll come to you.” Scar taught the grandfather the tongue technique, and he got good enough to make your ear ring.2930
- Tree structures: Each individual has a unique structure, like a signature (“Scar was here,” “Scar lives here”), and each clan has its own. A place with many structures is a crossroads or meeting place. Scar said it was nice to find a structure from someone he knew.31
- Mating signals: Females don’t build tree structures. They bend and weave branches into circular shapes and hang them in trees. When a female comes of age or is widowed, she urinates on her shapes to announce she’s available. Males passing through hang around and call to show interest. Hawk suggests some of the yells people hear in the woods are males courting.3233
- Gifts: The grandfather was given several of these woven circles, which hung on the outside of his ranch house.34
- Family and travel: They live in small family groups and know the dangers of inbreeding. Males have a wanderlust, travel widely, and sometimes bring home a wife from elsewhere.35
- Clan etiquette: They can go anywhere, but on finding another clan’s structure they don’t barge in. They announce themselves or move on.36
- Home: Scar pointed out where his people lived on the mountain and asked the grandfather never to go there.37
- Fear of humans: Scar’s elders told him what human elders tell their children: stay away, they’re evil, don’t look them in the eye, run, they’re killers. They fear us more than we know and just want to be left alone.38
- Other clans: Scar described other clans and kinds of forest people, some very peaceful, some not good, and some far to the north that sound like monsters.39
- No paranormal abilities: The grandfather and the other storytellers never described telepathy or special powers, only hairy people of the forest.40 Hawk later allowed that Scar may simply not have shown such things.37
- Hidden history: Hawk says Scar told the grandfather a history of the forest people and the earlier inhabitants of the Americas that differs sharply from accepted history. He hasn’t shared it yet.41
7. The family and the dry meat (1930s)
On his way to a mountain lake to fish, the grandfather heard a single knock answered by three, and stopped to wait for Scar. Scar, now over 7 ft, came down the slope with his father (10+ ft), his older brother (8+ ft), and a small stranger the clan had taken in.4243
- The grandfather felt dread, then a humbled weakness, and sat down. The four squatted in front of him in silence.44
- He bowed his head to each in turn. The father looked away into the forest while the others stared.45
- Scar asked for dry meat by tapping the sack with a stick, shared it with his father and brother, then teased the little one by withholding his share before nodding to let him have some.46
- Afterward Scar thanked the grandfather for not speaking to him in front of the others. His father and brother didn’t know Scar had taught a human their language, or that he spoke English.47
The fostered stranger
The little one looked nothing like the family. He stood about 6 ft and was skinny, with black hair, a bare face, short legs and long arms, a flat nose, protruding ears, a round head with a brow ridge, and light brown eyes. He often moved on all fours.48
- How he was found: One night the clan heard crying higher on the mountain. After two nights of it, they all went up and found him with raw, bloody hands, feet, and knees, his face swollen and caked with blood. He had been shot and had run and crawled for days.49
- His wound: He acted out the shooting for the grandfather, peeking from behind a tree, punching his own face, and falling backward. The wound healed into a disfiguring scar on the left side of his mouth and cheek.50
- Adoption: The clan healed him and took him in, and he attached himself to Scar and followed him everywhere. His own people were never found.51
8. A 50-year friendship
The friendship lasted about 50 years.4 Hawk says his grandfather did tell him Scar’s real name and what his people called themselves, but he no longer remembers either.52 Hawk says these are not mind-blowing stories, just two friends growing up together in a fast-changing world, one of whom happened to be covered in hair and grew very big.53
Gaps still open
- The second-meeting fishing email.
- Hawk’s promised email on their fear of things from the sky.27
- Scar’s history of the Americas.41
- Scar’s appearance as an adult, and any skin color.
Sources
All videos: The Round Table Of Knowledge By HTH. Links open at the timestamp where each passage begins.
- 1. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 07:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=436s ↩ - 2. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 07:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=462s ↩ - 3. Thank You, Steve, from Hawk, 07:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXBl5gW290&t=432s ↩ - 4. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 13:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=792s ↩ - 5. Thank You, Steve, from Hawk, 06:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXBl5gW290&t=410s ↩ - 6. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 08:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=506s ↩ - 7. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 09:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=581s ↩ - 8. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 10:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=634s ↩ - 9. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 11:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=681s ↩ - 10. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 11:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=703s ↩ - 11. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 12:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=729s ↩ - 12. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 12:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=753s ↩ - 13. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 12:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=773s ↩ - 14. More info from Hawk, 20:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2lILxsRjo&t=1227s ↩ - 15. More info from Hawk, 18:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2lILxsRjo&t=1107s ↩ - 16. Native American man fills in some puzzle pieces, 13:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD98rP86FKM&t=820s ↩ - 17. More info from Hawk, 18:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2lILxsRjo&t=1128s ↩ - 18. More info from Hawk, 20:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2lILxsRjo&t=1201s ↩ - 19. More info from Hawk, 19:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2lILxsRjo&t=1151s ↩ - 20. More info from Hawk, 19:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2lILxsRjo&t=1178s ↩ - 21. More Puzzle Pieces from Hawk, 15:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StMu6t1QJiE&t=917s ↩ - 22. Thank You, Steve, from Hawk, 09:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXBl5gW290&t=573s ↩ - 23. Untitled (language and the match), 05:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=347s ↩ - 24. Untitled (language and the match), 06:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=373s ↩ - 25. Untitled (language and the match), 06:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=395s ↩ - 26. Untitled (language and the match), 07:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=426s ↩ - 27. Untitled (language and the match), 07:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=449s ↩ - 28. Untitled (language and the match), 08:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=493s ↩ - 29. More Puzzle Pieces from Hawk, 15:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StMu6t1QJiE&t=938s ↩ - 30. More Puzzle Pieces from Hawk, 17:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StMu6t1QJiE&t=1042s ↩ - 31. More Puzzle Pieces from Hawk, 17:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StMu6t1QJiE&t=1072s ↩ - 32. More Puzzle Pieces from Hawk, 18:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StMu6t1QJiE&t=1094s ↩ - 33. Clarification from Hawk, 16:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vipbnpl3BY&t=1003s ↩ - 34. Clarification from Hawk, 17:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vipbnpl3BY&t=1028s ↩ - 35. Clarification from Hawk, 17:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vipbnpl3BY&t=1053s ↩ - 36. Untitled (language and the match), 07:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=471s ↩ - 37. Untitled (language and the match), 05:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_dOvixX_U&t=323s ↩ - 38. More Puzzle Pieces from Hawk, 18:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StMu6t1QJiE&t=1116s ↩ - 39. Thank You, Steve, from Hawk, 08:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXBl5gW290&t=490s ↩ - 40. Thank You, Steve, from Hawk, 06:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXBl5gW290&t=388s ↩ - 41. Thank You, Steve, from Hawk, 08:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXBl5gW290&t=529s ↩ - 42. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 35:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2153s ↩ - 43. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 36:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2199s ↩ - 44. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 37:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2226s ↩ - 45. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 37:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2247s ↩ - 46. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 39:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2394s ↩ - 47. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 41:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2475s ↩ - 48. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 38:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2326s ↩ - 49. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 41:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2493s ↩ - 50. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 39:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2348s ↩ - 51. My Grandfather Meets More of the Forest People, 41:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoM8RZadF8&t=2517s ↩ - 52. Morning from Hawk, 36:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEsaTOPRsL4&t=2178s ↩ - 53. Thank You, Steve, from Hawk, 08:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXBl5gW290&t=509s ↩
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